Anyone who’s ever tackled a renovation or needed a bit of timber work has probably had the same question: Do I call a carpenter, or a joiner? And what’s the actual difference?
They’re both experts with wood, but they’re not doing the same job. Knowing who you need can save you money, time, and a few unnecessary headaches. For more detailed examples, take a look at our carpentry services.
Joiners — The Workshop Makers
Joiners don’t usually spend much time on building sites. They’re in a workshop, shaping raw timber into the precise bits and pieces that will eventually get fitted.
Think staircases, doors, window frames, or a built-in bookcase that actually fits your wall properly. Many of these products are later installed by our door and frame specialists or wardrobe fitters.
Typical Jobs for a Joiner
- Staircases
- Doors and frames
- Windows (frames and sashes)
- Built-in shelving
- Wardrobes and cabinetry
- Roof trusses
The point is — they’re making things. Because they’re in a workshop, they can work with the big machines, take their time, and get the finish spot on. If you need something custom built, that’s where you start. We also handle these in our bespoke joinery projects.
Carpenters — The On-Site Problem Solvers
Carpenters are usually the ones on site, fitting all the pieces together. That could be the doors the joiner made, a staircase, or brand new flooring.
They also deal with timber directly on site — putting up stud walls, floor joists, roof frames. For examples, see our stud wall and partitioning work.
Typical Jobs for a Carpenter
- Hanging doors
- Installing staircases and handrails
- Skirting boards, architraves
- Stud walls, floor joists
- On-site timber framing
- Final fix work
Carpenters often have to think on their feet. Old houses, uneven walls — nothing ever lines up the way it’s meant to. A good carpenter can make those adjustments so the end result still looks right. We cover this in our repairs and restorations service.
How to Tell Them Apart
The simple version?
- Joiners work in a workshop, making things.
- Carpenters work on site, fitting them.
Yes, sometimes the two skills overlap. Smaller jobs especially. But that’s the gist.
Training and Specialising
In the UK, both usually start with the same foundation — an apprenticeship or NVQ in carpentry and joinery. After that, most pick a side. Joiners might move into furniture or custom builds. Carpenters might focus on installation or structural work.
Who Do You Need?
Quick rule:
- Something needs building → joiner.
- Something needs fitting → carpenter.
- Need both? → find a team that covers both sides.
Example: A fitted wardrobe for an awkward alcove. The joiner builds it so it fits perfectly. The carpenter installs it, making those last tweaks so it sits flush. We regularly do this as part of our full home renovations.
Why It Matters
This isn’t just about using the right term. Getting the right trade at the right stage keeps projects moving.
Joinery needs time for measuring, design, and building. Carpentry needs coordination with the rest of the work on site. Knowing the order helps avoid delays and budget surprises.
At Presence & Co., our carpenters work from first fix through to fine finishing. While we don’t have joiners in-house, we regularly fit custom-made pieces to a high standard.
In Short
Joiners make. Carpenters fit. Both are essential.
Whether you’re doing a full renovation or just need a door adjusted, knowing who to call will save you time and frustration.
Looking for a skilled carpenter in Kent? Get in touch with us today.
Common Questions About Carpenters & Joiners
Who gets paid more, a carpenter or a joiner?
Pay can vary depending on experience, location, and type of work. In general, there isn’t a fixed “winner” — skilled carpenters and joiners can earn similar rates. Specialist work or high-end bespoke projects can command higher fees for either trade.
Can a carpenter be a joiner?
Yes. Many tradespeople train in both carpentry and joinery at the start of their career, then specialise over time. Some still work across both, especially on smaller projects where the roles overlap.
Why is a joiner called a carpenter?
Historically, the terms were often used interchangeably because both trades work with wood. Over time, the industry split the roles: joiners make pieces in a workshop, carpenters fit them on site. In everyday conversation, people still sometimes use “carpenter” for both.
What do joiners charge per hour?
Rates vary depending on skill level, location, and the type of project. In the UK, joiners typically charge anywhere from £20 to £40 per hour. Bespoke work or highly detailed projects can cost more, especially when specialist tools or finishes are involved.